Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Intelligent Design?

Last night I watched Ben Stein's new documentary, "Expelled; No Intelligence Allowed" and have come away with quite a few interesting thoughts, I will share a few here and I may share more in the future. First off the movie is not a pro-creation movie, it is not defending the Biblical account of creation, it is simply trying to bring attention to the focus the scientific world puts on evolution and the assumption they make that it is absolutely true, and it raises questions about why this is the case.
One question I have, and this was not addressed in the movie is why is it so threatening to the scientific world to have other possibilities for the origin of life? Why are they threatened by the mention of there being a creator? Why is that "bad science"? I don't understand how they can so staunchly stand beside something that was started based on "bad science"! Darwin was not a scientist as we know them today, he did not diligently study the origin of life like a scientist would today, so basically Darwin was a "bad scientist". He looked at life as he saw it, and came up with a semi-rational (in a 5th grader sort of way) theory as to how human life came to be, then he went and looked for evidence to support his conclusion. Ever since that time scientists have been looking for evidence to support that conclusion, and in the process have run into a few dead ends! One thing that evolution has completely failed to answer to this point is where did life ultimately come from? The theory of evolution can't prove it, and most scientists will tell you that no one even knows. So if that's the case, then why is it so bad to suggest that its possible it was created?
By saying its possible it was created you are simply opening up your research to new possibilities not closing off the door to scientific reasoning. On the other hand blindly claiming evolution holds all the answers is closing the door completely to scientific research and reasoning.
To further substantiate Ben's claims in the movie I found a web site called "Expelled Exposed", it is run by the National Center for Science Education, which is one of the groups Ben visited in his movie and one of the groups that vehemently denies there could be a creator. Their tag line on their web site is "When creationism flares up in the United States, the NCSE is there to put out the fires." which in my opinion further proves Ben's point that there is a hatred in the scientific community for the argument of creation or intelligent design. Again I say what evil can come from exploring the possibilities of a creator? The foolishness in blindly claiming no creator, and no God far outweighs the danger in searching for a God.
Plainly said, the goal of the scientific community is to box up religion into a nice little social affair that makes people happy, and make it into a "feel good" event that promotes mental health and a quality life, they don't think the supernatural has any place in medicine, science, or anything else. Quite frankly this saddens me, the God that I personally know is not a God that can or will be boxed up, he is real, living, and my life is much different, and fulfilled as a result of knowing him! Such a world without him, would be a world without love of any kind, and to that I say absolutely No Way!!


BobC said...

The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.

Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust

New York, NY, April 29, 2008 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today issued the following statement regarding the controversial film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.

The film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed misappropriates the Holocaust and its imagery as a part of its political effort to discredit the scientific community which rejects so-called intelligent design theory.

Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people and Darwin and evolutionary theory cannot explain Hitler's genocidal madness.

Using the Holocaust in order to tarnish those who promote the theory of evolution is outrageous and trivializes the complex factors that led to the mass extermination of European Jewry.

BobC said...

You said: Their tag line on their web site is "When creationism flares up in the United States, the NCSE is there to put out the fires." which in my opinion further proves Ben's point that there is a hatred in the scientific community for the argument of creation or intelligent design.

No scientist cares what other people believe. The problem is when people try to force their childish beliefs in magic, and their total ignorance of science, into science education.

If the Christians kept their religious ideas in their churches and out of our schools, there would be no problem. I noticed scientists are not demanding that science be taught in Sunday school.

Let scientists choose science curriculums. That should make sense to any sane person.

By the way, you really need to educate yourself. Your calling Darwin a bad scientist proves you know nothing about science. When you say things like that you disgrace yourself and you disgrace your religion.

Biological evolution is a scientific fact supported by massive and powerful evidence from several branches of science.

Intelligent design is a childish belief in magic.

Educated people understand evolution. Many Christians understand and accept the facts of evolution. They are ashamed of the Christian creationists who make all Christians look like uneducated hicks.

D-Rok said...

I like the fact that 8 minutes after you posted this, you got a hate message. This just shows that people can not seem to understand that science and religion can co-exist.

D-Rok said...

Does the understanding of how an architect builds an engineering masterpiece disprove the idea of the creative genius of his work? So just because we understand how it works, does that mean it didn't happen from a creator? If energy and matter can not be created or destroyed, then where did it all come from? What started the creation of the universe? And if we all descended from one single cell, then how is it that our sun is still burning, wouldn't the time it take for that to happen make the sun burn out by now? How is it that mitochondria exist in evolutionary theory? Their first step in its cycle is to use up energy. Therefore if this step was done one at a time, as evolution theory suggests, then why didn't the cell die when it did this for the first time? said...

One of the problems I have with the way evolution is taught in the public school classroom is that science is not honest with the students in showing that evolution cannot be proved.

The best science can do is try to show that evolution is possible. But science cannot prove that it actually happened unless they can disprove creation.

But to disprove creation, you would have to examine and rule out supernatural causes. Science cannot do that because science never considers supernatural causes as explanations for evidence.

It is the bias of science that prevents it from looking at both sides equally, which is required for logical proof.

Darren said...

Actually some of the most brilliant scientist in the world recognize creationism as a likely theory.

I don't know what you learned in the movie, but did you know that science has no way of explaining how water was "formed" here on earth? It is scientifically impossible to explain the origin of the ocean. To this day there isn't even one theory that has any kind of respect from the scientific community on this topic. We can explain that the earth is likely 4.5 billion years old, but not where water came from? Every scientist who has looked into this eventually looks at other theories. I work with about 50 scientist, and I might add that many of them are some of the best in the world considering the company I work for, and almost all, if not all, believe creation has a place in science. Good scientists recognize creation as a plausible theory. Science has no place for closed minded people.

Darren said...

If you go to the second page of the bobc link you'll find a scientist who can not argue that our anatomy must have come from intelligent design. Though he thinks it came from an alien in his theory. Funny.

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